Convert to Islam or Die
Angry at the Pope’s comments about Mohamed, Muslims went on a rampage of violence - fire bombing non-Muslim churches. It seems that the Pope’s comments about Islamic violence prompted more Islamic violence.
When will the peaceful followers of Islam do something about the radical murderers among them? Probably never - because the violence is against non-Muslims. Mohamed himself said that Islam should be spread by the sword.
The Muslims are not the first (nor will they be the last) to spread religion by the sword.
posted by zephyr @ 1:20 PM
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"The Muslims are not the first (nor will they be the last) to spread religion by the sword."
Ya think?
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The war in Iraq is not about the US pushing religion on the people by the sword. It is about stopping those who spread oppression by the sword.
War is nasty, and destructive. But the vast majority of the deaths in Iraq are either combatants or victims of the Muslim extremists.
Certainly there have been isolated incidents of atrocities by Americans. And innocent civilians do get caught in the mayhem.
Contrast that to a regular orgy of atrocities by the insurgents. Not so much against Americans - but against fellow Iraqis.
Prior to the war the regime of Saddam Hussein was notorious for its atrocities. More people were brutalized, tortured and killed in Iraq by the Iraqi government than are suffering now during a war.
The death and suffering in Iraq was worse before the war.
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The war in Iraq continues to bring death and suffering to Iraq. The insurgents are making about 90 attacks per day – an increase of about 20% compared to a year ago. About 60% of these attacks are against Coalition forces, about 20% are against Iraqi forces, and about 20% are against Iraqi civilians.
With the increase in insurgent attacks the violent death rate of Iraqi civilians has been increasing with an average death toll of about 2,400 people per month during 2006. Most of these deaths are from murders. Most of the war-related civilian casualties are caused by the insurgents. The war will not go on forever.
Saddam Hussein killed about 500,000 people during his reign, mostly through genocide and terror.
So much for statistics... What do the Iraqi people think of their current suffering compared to being ruled by Saddam Hussein?
In a June 2006 poll Iraqis were asked if the ousting of Saddam Hussein was worth the hardships they have suffered since the US-British invasion. Their response: 77% said it was worth it. Of course, this varies by ethnic group, with only 13% of the Sunnis saying it was worth it, while 98% of the Shia said it was worth it, and 91% of the Kurds think that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth the suffering that has followed.
So (except for Saddam’s old power base) the overwhelming majority of Iraqis seem to think that things were worse before the invasion.
On the other hand, 82% said that they are strongly opposed to the presence of Coalition forces.
In August there were about 152,000 Coalition armed forces personnel in Iraq (down from the peak level of 183,000 in December of 2005). There are also about 130,000 Iraqi soldiers – up dramatically from about 50,000 in January of 2005, and 107,000 in January of 2006. Their defensive ability is building, but not quite ready to go it alone.
The population of Iraq is about 28 million. Per capita GDP was $1,051 in 2005 up from $802 in 2002.
http://www.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index20060831.pdf
believe in jesus or burn in hell eternally.
convert to islam or die.
there is little difference between the goals of each statement. fundamentalists on both sides like to practice manipulation in an attempt to gain power for their respective movement.
is your gripe against islam or religious fundamentalist in general that use manipulative tactics?
to me the problem is not with islam but fundamentalists of every ilk.
Similar goals - but much different methods.
It is one thing to tell me I will burn in hell after my eventual death. However, it is very sinister to murder me for not being a "true believer."
The problem is the intentional killing of peaceful people – whether for religion or other reasons. Unfortunately, this is nothing new. Nor is it unique to the Muslims – they just have a very active program these days. And the majority of Muslims seem to be passively ignoring the murderous activities of the radical few. Many others seem to actively support it. I worry that many Muslims do not consider the murder of non-Muslims as a problem.
The problem will persist until the peaceful Muslims consider the terrorists within their communities to be murderers and treat them as such.
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